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	<title>Comments on: Moderation</title>
	<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/</link>
	<description>development log of art.gnome.org 3</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bruno Santos</title>
		<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-15</link>
		<author>Bruno Santos</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 22:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-15</guid>
		<description>To: Vasiliy Faronov

No problem. It was good to be certain we have a good solution to the problem of moderation.

Keep those comments coming. They are more than welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Vasiliy Faronov</p>
<p>No problem. It was good to be certain we have a good solution to the problem of moderation.</p>
<p>Keep those comments coming. They are more than welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Vasiliy Faronov</title>
		<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-14</link>
		<author>Vasiliy Faronov</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-14</guid>
		<description>Oops...

As usual, a misreading of the author’s proposal leads to various misunderstanding :-)  Please scrap that last comment of mine. Sorry for the hassle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;</p>
<p>As usual, a misreading of the author’s proposal leads to various misunderstanding <img src='http://eksperimental.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Please scrap that last comment of mine. Sorry for the hassle.</p>
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		<title>By: Vasiliy Faronov</title>
		<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-13</link>
		<author>Vasiliy Faronov</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-13</guid>
		<description>Lucas, this is fine, but I don’t see how adding a _second_ layer of community review (moderators are a part of the community, remember) improves quality.

Here is how I see. Why would a moderator refuse to pass content into the “community voting” area? Two reasons I can think of are:
* either the content is obviously very bad or malfunctioning;
* or the content is objectionable in the sense that it is submitted to disrupt the system (something like wiki vandalism maybe).

The first case can easily be dealt with by the regular voters. I mean, who would vote for an obviously bad or malfunctioning theme/engine/etc.?

The second case is why I also propose a mechanism for moderators to delete certain items from the voting area. But this is POSTmoderation, not PREmoderation.

I see two advantages in my approach:
* less complexity;
* content will get to the ever-hungry users faster :-)

And there is no damage to the overall quality, because content is still allowed into the “general public view” area only after a period of community voting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucas, this is fine, but I don’t see how adding a _second_ layer of community review (moderators are a part of the community, remember) improves quality.</p>
<p>Here is how I see. Why would a moderator refuse to pass content into the “community voting” area? Two reasons I can think of are:<br />
* either the content is obviously very bad or malfunctioning;<br />
* or the content is objectionable in the sense that it is submitted to disrupt the system (something like wiki vandalism maybe).</p>
<p>The first case can easily be dealt with by the regular voters. I mean, who would vote for an obviously bad or malfunctioning theme/engine/etc.?</p>
<p>The second case is why I also propose a mechanism for moderators to delete certain items from the voting area. But this is POSTmoderation, not PREmoderation.</p>
<p>I see two advantages in my approach:<br />
* less complexity;<br />
* content will get to the ever-hungry users faster <img src='http://eksperimental.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And there is no damage to the overall quality, because content is still allowed into the “general public view” area only after a period of community voting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas "Drom" Lommer</title>
		<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-12</link>
		<author>Lucas "Drom" Lommer</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 18:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-12</guid>
		<description>To: Vasiliy Faronov
Because Art.Gnome.org provides high quality themes and stuff only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Vasiliy Faronov<br />
Because Art.Gnome.org provides high quality themes and stuff only.</p>
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		<title>By: Vasiliy Faronov</title>
		<link>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-11</link>
		<author>Vasiliy Faronov</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://eksperimental.net/blog/2007/04/29/moderation/#comment-11</guid>
		<description>Why have the two-stage review process where a single public review queue would suffice? The community gets to rate the content anyway, and I think that if a piece of artwork is declined by moderators, the community surely wouldn’t let it in as well. So maybe this is a place for simplification.

But then we need an option for moderators to drop content from the review queue, e. g. if it is objectionable and has to be removed from public view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why have the two-stage review process where a single public review queue would suffice? The community gets to rate the content anyway, and I think that if a piece of artwork is declined by moderators, the community surely wouldn’t let it in as well. So maybe this is a place for simplification.</p>
<p>But then we need an option for moderators to drop content from the review queue, e. g. if it is objectionable and has to be removed from public view.</p>
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